Anti-fans.

So today, i spent most of my time in SnSd anti-forum . It is nice to read comments from both for SnSd and against SnSd… And what i realizes that, SnSd antis give us prove with evidence and facts to support their arguments… While SnSd fans just give us some random excuses.. 

To tell you the truth, im not a huge fan of SnSd and some of it’s members.. I just like 4 of it’s member namely Seohyun, Sooyoung, Sunny and Jessica. and I don’t give a damn about the other members… Used to be a fan of Im Yoona, but then after seeing her in Cinderella man and You’re my Destiny, i started to dislike her…

When i was reading through the articles in the web above, most of the articles are about Taeyeon not being the perfect leader and her problems of being rude, racists and what not. But most of the end topics are about SM not treating other artists and fanclubs, and being biased towards SNSD(maybe because of sunny). 

In my whole K-pop and J-pop fandom life, i really those artist who are in favour of their company. For example, Nakayama yuma from Johnny’s, he was in favour of JE and until now i still HATE him. And now SNSD???

I’m starting to dislike them actually… But im still in indecisive mode wether to hate them or not. You tell me!. But, i will let time decide.. Unless they do something to our beloved 13 boys.

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  1. coke

    you should not hate snsd or other kpop artist…
    first they are humans they are not perfect
    then i think they are nice…and they have a good relationship with suju..snsd and suju are friends…and they always support each other…and i don’t think sm is biased toward snsd….hmmmmmm

  2. 🙂 Thanks for your comment.. I will take it into consideration that SnSd and Super Junior are in a good relationship. I know, sometimes people over do the rumors so that the Snsd’s name becomes bad… I acknowledge it too..

    The feeling of hate-ress is forbidden towards any human being, but maybe dislike is acceptable.

    • uyeni

      Hi, I like how you express your i-dont-like-snsd opinion without being rude like most of the anti comments i’ve read 🙂

      “And what i realizes that, SnSd antis give us prove with evidence and facts to support their arguments… While SnSd fans just give us some random excuses.. ”
      What do you mean?

      “I just like 4 of it’s member namely Seohyun, Sooyoung, Sunny and Jessica. and I don’t give a damn about the other members… Used to be a fan of Im Yoona, but then after seeing her in Cinderella man and You’re my Destiny, i started to dislike her…” Why ?

      I agree with you, you can dislike them but I went on the website you linked, the name of their album will be “Oh!” as in “Oh! My god this album sucks!” or “Oh! I think my ears are bleeding!” or “Oh! Why did I even think they might do something dignified for a change?” “There’s a fancam of their red carpet photo-shoot. Notice how some of them, especially Tiffany, is a little “extra nice” towards the reporters and photographers.”
      That’s just enough for me to judge the website. Obviously the writers/members are really following the girls and bashing them about everything they do. That’s not dislike them, to me “dislike” means “You don’t like them and you don’t care enough to hate them”. But the website seem to update their news regularly so obviously they’re obsessed.

      “But most of the end topics are about SM not treating other artists and fanclubs, and being biased towards SNSD(maybe because of sunny)” ?? What?

      Lol sorry I’m quoting and asking a lot, I just wanna understand your point of view better.

      “Unless they do something to our beloved 13 boys.” You see, I don’t think they would do anything bad to each other. I watched some random youtube fancams yesterday, there’s one of Yoona and Hyoyeon [Golden disk awards] starting to cry like mad when Leeteuk was talking about Kangin and Kibum. You can tell Hyoyeon saying “Kangin Oppa”.. And when SUJU won, the girls went wild, way more than when they won ^^ SNSD members are just fangirls.

      • Hey 😀 Thanks for reading my entry…

        Well my point was that, when anti-fans point out their arguments, like the topic ‘Taeyeon being racist’, there is an evidence to this topic, but SONEs protect their idols by saying things like she blurted it out and all that… Another one is the one where ‘Taeyeon said some bad words on air during her radio show’, at the end Kangin, her partner, has to apologize, but then why are the SONEs still bash him?

        Well people have different point of view, and my point of view is Yoona’s acting is not that good, i know it’s ad to criticize others when me myself can’t do it, but i think other artist who only got less roles in other dramas can do better than Yoona herself.

        Well, isn’t that what normal anti-fans will do?? They follow those artist and bash things about them, but what so special about this anti-fan web is that, as i pointed above, they give enough evidence(i don’t know for you, but for me to respect them).

        As you know Sunny is Lee Soo Man’s niece. And if you see most of SNSD’s early days are full of them and big stars like DBSK and SUJU. I don’t blame them, but LSM himself. That’s what some people say as Leeching, why go with other stars to be famous when you can go by your own like ‘Kara’ and ‘Wondergirls’. I believe they debut around the same time right?

        That’s okay, i understand you… Me myself would ask the same thing if i were you.

        I know they are family under the same company, what i really meant was not them but their over-reacted-fanboys. Take for example the situation above, ‘Taeyeon and Kangin’. Have you heard that their fans caused a fight with other fanclubs especially SS501’s, Kara’s, SUJU’s and TVXQ’s fans… I think i’ve heard somewhere with pictures that the SONEs even bring knife (to threaten? who knows)… Some of the SONEs even destroyed SuJu’s banner during the dream concert 2008 if im not mistaken…. And holding small banners written, ‘porn’ on it? Isn’t that a bit too much??

  3. uyeni

    Hey^^ (going to quote + give you my opinion again lol)

    “Well, isn’t that what normal anti-fans will do?? They follow those artists and bash things about them, but what so special about this anti-fan web is that, as i pointed above, they give enough evidence (i don’t know for you, but for me to respect them).” I’m sorry but you just don’t say “normal” with “anti fans”. It’s not just normal to be anti. I just don’t get how we can be an “anti”. Where’s the point following people you don’t like? oO You don’t like them? Fine, just move on… You’re actually saying you have respect for people digging pictures, videos, news, etc. about people they hate ? To me that’s just really sad…
    Plus, you’re saying those antis give “evidence” but it’s easy to comment a picture, or to distort official news (like when they said Han Geng wanted to leave Super Junior because of SNSD… -_-), etc. don’t you think?
    e.g. : Tiffany is a whore. Here a picture evidence : [pic you see tiffany touching her butt or something].
    Gotta be really really naive to consider that as an evidence…
    Or remember the radio where people start to bash her because they said she was disrespectful ? Yeah, antis will give you the video, but I watched the video, and I just don’t see anything disrecpectful…
    Or the awkward relationship between Shinee’s Key and SNSD’s Seohyun shown on Star Golden Bell. They’ve known each other for 4 years but they still use formalities and bow at each other. Some antis said “I really hate her. How can she be this mean to Key? He’s so sweet.” giving you the Star Golden Bell video as proof.
    BIG LOL. Seohyun being bashed because she’s shy.
    Plus they can consider shy Seohyun as being mean to Key, but not shy Key as being mean to Seohyun.

    Or another example : http://standintl.motionforum.net/news-rumors-to-share-post-here-f2/updated-hyoyeon-shows-she-can-be-just-like-the-rest-of-her-members-t2111.htm
    There. Statement + Video evience. But LOL Hyoyeon being rude because she was dancing? SERIOUSLY?
    The girl says “Hyoyeon, just because SBS Inkigayo has a rule of maximum of 3 wins which automatically took you out of the nomination, doesn’t mean you need to STILL steal the limelight from the other winners. ” If she knows Hyoyeon better, she would know Hyoyeon would never steal any limelight and thats why she’s currently the most underrated SNSD member… Plus Hyoyeon disrepectful to Nicole? They’ve been BFF for years… (if you want proof of me saying they’re BFF, i’ll give them..). Don’t even wanna talk about the rest of the article where the anti is bashing Hyoyeon because she’s rehearsing with an orange sweater…
    It’s so easy to just bash people and give a link as evidence…

    But yeah, I agree with you about Taeyeon’s “accident”. Most of SNSD fans turn a blind eye on it. I just think there’s different way to look at it. (You’re talking about the Alicia Keys thing, right?) Will tell you my opinion once you confirm this xD
    I don’t know about the Kangin/Taeyeon accident but it’s definitely not right to bash Kangin (or Taeyeon either). But again, that’s just a few sones who reacted like that, I personally love Kangin…

    “Well people have different point of view, and my point of view is Yoona’s acting is not that good, i know it’s ad to criticize others when me myself can’t do it, but i think other artist who only got less roles in other dramas can do better than Yoona herself.” Alright, so you don’t think she’s a good actress. Why do you have to hate her for that? And can’t you consider that other people might actually fairly think she’s good actress? Yoona’s been trained for 7 years (i think?) to be an actress, singer, dancer.. entertainer. She might get roles because of her talent but don’t forget that SM earns a lot through her, thats why SM promotes her A LOT compared to the other artists (The girl is SM protegee, she’s one of the SM artists having a DBSK-like contract so that involves she has a certain amount to earn monthly). When you watch interviews or radio appearances, Yoona NEVER talks. She always let her unnies speak and stay in the back. You totally see shes not the type to steal any limelight to anyone…

    “As you know Sunny is Lee Soo Man’s niece. And if you see most of SNSD’s early days are full of them and big stars like DBSK and SUJU. I don’t blame them, but LSM himself. That’s what some people say as Leeching, why go with other stars to be famous when you can go by your own like ‘Kara’ and ‘Wondergirls’. I believe they debut around the same time right?” Huh? What does Sunny being his niece has to do with the leeching argument? And the leeching argument…Are you considering LSM as SNSD manager or something? The guy is the chairman of the biggest entertainment company in Korea Why would he be personally involved in SNSD’s promotions…
    I don’t see the link with Kara and Wondergirls (btw, Kara and the Wondergirls are really close to SNSD)
    “I know they are family under the same company, what i really meant was not them but their over-reacted-fanboys. Take for example the situation above, ‘Taeyeon and Kangin’. Have you heard that their fans caused a fight with other fanclubs especially SS501’s, Kara’s, SUJU’s and TVXQ’s fans… I think i’ve heard somewhere with pictures that the SONEs even bring knife (to threaten? who knows)… Some of the SONEs even destroyed SuJu’s banner during the dream concert 2008 if im not mistaken…. And holding small banners written, ‘porn’ on it? Isn’t that a bit too much??” Yeah SNSD has some crazy fans (like any idols!)… but i assure you, not all of them are like that lol (I for one would never do that xD). Plus, people to blame are those crazy fans and surely not SNSD, right?
    E.g. the dream concert 08, do you think SUJU, TVXQ, etc. are proud of their fans (just the ones involved in this of course)? They said countless times that they consider SNSD like their own sisters… and imo antis’ behaviour are hurting both sides everytime, so there’s no point in the end.

    To me, looks like you hate more what the crazy fans did to SUJU but you kinda deviate your hate on SNSD…

    Going to share this with you this:
    http://soshified.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32809&st=0
    If you have no interest in Hyoyeon, that article might change what you think. There’s also articles by the same author about other members, if you want I’ll search for the links.

    Looking forward to your reply, i find your opinion really interesting^^

    • It is true that it is beyond norms to be an anti of someone who is supposed to be loved by everyone. But then this is life, you have lovers and you also have haters, and for those idols, they have fans and they have anti-fans. All anti-fans in this idol world do that, take a picture/video and bash about them(same goes to other artist and not just SNSD)

      Fine, but don’t you think that a picture is worth a thousand meanings? Moreover video?? Well one thing that i respect them is that, they don’t edit pictures just for some lame criticism. Go to (stupid-junior.blogspot.com ), super junior’s anti-fan club… she do give some actual fact about them but then she also edit pictures to make some lie.

      You have a point there ^-^ . Yes it’s easy for people to criticize some news but it’s already proven that it wasn’t because of SNSD that Hankyung wanted to leave.. And the Tiffany picture, i have no comment there, i mean, they can always get screencaps where tiffany is holding her but without realizing it.

      Is this the one with the Kangin case? If this is it, then i will explain my arguments. She said something which cannot be said on air, it can be considered like people saying f**k on air. Which later she apologized, but doesn’t that show her true colours?

      😛 i know, poor Seo Hyun… I actually pitied her because people talk bad about her just because of that. But i believe that if you go to SHINee’s anti-fan’s forum(i don’t know if that exist or not), they will also bash about Key. It’s always on both sides not just one.

    • Hyoyeon, Hyoyeon, i have nothing to hate about her, also nothing to like.. She is like in the middle of my list, between my most loved member and my least liked member.

      Yeah during interviews Yoona barely talks, same goes to Seohyun and Hyoyeon. She might trained really well but in my eyes there’s lot of people who are better than her. Sooyoung’s acting is not that bad too. But i don’t hate Yoona actually, in-fact my brother really loves her and i won’t dare to bash Yoona around him coz he might actually kill me for it(not literally XD).

      Not that i know what’s going on inside SME but then i think it’s maybe just because Sunny is LSM’s niece that SNSD got their way out of their debut to where they are now, through these famous people.. He don’t personally involved in those promotions but he can always tell their manager to do that right? Not that i know.

      Kara and Wondergirls debut around the same time as SNSD, but they got their fames from their own hard work alone, not with following other famous artist around.

      Yes, not all of them are like that, and i believe some other fans from other artist, Maybe? do something/bring something like that too, but there’s just not enough? none? evidence at all.

      SuJu, TCXQ, SNSD are indeed one family. I just can’t understand the fans, why can’t they get together like the artists do. Other fanclubs, like SS501 and Kara(from the same company), are in good terms, why can’t Cassies, E.L.F.s and SONEs be like that??

      Let me clear my point above that i don’t hate them, just dislike.. And i would be glad if you can give me links for the other members, but the problem is, i can’t read them, it won’t let me coz im not in the forum.

      XD i also find your points interesting… It’s quite nice to read opinions that are pros and cons to something…. 🙂

  4. uyeni

    “Fine, but don’t you think that a picture is worth a thousand meanings? Moreover video?? Well one thing that i respect them is that, they don’t edit pictures just for some lame criticism. Go to (stupid-junior.blogspot.com ), super junior’s anti-fan club… she do give some actual fact about them but then she also edit pictures to make some lie.” Fine, in the anti world, they’re “respectful”…
    For me, a picture or a video used like that doesnt worth anything…

    “All anti-fans in this idol world do that, take a picture/video and bash about them(same goes to other artist and not just SNSD)”
    Agreed, but my opinion about SNSD antis is the same for any antis. It’s not because they exist that its normal.

    “Is this the one with the Kangin case? If this is it, then i will explain my arguments. She said something which cannot be said on air, it can be considered like people saying f**k on air. Which later she apologized, but doesn’t that show her true colours?”
    What about Shindong and the fat girls thing? He apologized but people could also think “omg i don’t care if he apologized, he showed his true colours”, right?
    True colors? People can say things without thinking, especially Taeyeon and Shindong who are 20-y-old big dorks.
    I still think its right to apologize since idols have to be careful about what they state because there’s always people hurt.
    [btw, what’s the true colors of a person saying fuck on air?]

    I think antis are just stupidily stubborn. Once you’re openminded enough, you just can’t be an anti..

    I’m not trying to convince you to love SNSD (you can dislike them, its alright lol), i’m trying to convince you to not be an SNSD anti because thats just wasting your time. (or being any idols’ anti for that matter)
    I’m pretty sure everytime the idols they hate are taking a break, antis are looking forward to their comeback even more than regular fans. That’s just sick and wrong oO

    • I don’t know if you’re an asian or not but then it’s a bit rude to say something like that on air. I acknowledges Shindong’s case, my loved towards hi kind of drifted away once i heard he said that, it can hurt other people, lol, Shindong’s case i think is more serious than Tae’s.

      I don’t really dislike SNSD to call myself an anti and i don’t really like SNSD that much to call my self a fan, but i really like to hear you point of view about SNSD, maybe that can drive my dislike towards them.. 🙂

  5. uyeni

    “Kara and Wondergirls debut around the same time as SNSD, but they got their fames from their own hard work alone, not with following other famous artist around.”
    SNSD didn’t follow SUJU or DBSK. They’re in the same company it’s logical that they perform together like for SM Town…
    Even performing with them omg they’re not famous because of that oO
    Wondergirls and Kara..hm. What’s their label already?
    JYP created Wondergirls/Rain interactions. And when 2PM debuted, they showed their close relationship with Wondergirls.
    And Kara’s company DSP made SS501-Kara stage various times. I’m pretty sure Rainbow (who is also in DSP) will be soon working with Kara. That’s just the way the entertainment company works.

    And when two groups interact, fans are happy. But well, you small minded people saying that’s “leeching”.

    Why people can say “YG Family” when it comes to 2NE1 debuting with Lollipop feat. Big Bang (literally!) but when SNSD hangs out with Suju, its called fame leeching… ?

    “I don’t know if you’re an asian or not but then it’s a bit rude to say something like that on air. I acknowledges Shindong’s case, my loved towards hi kind of drifted away once i heard he said that, it can hurt other people, lol, Shindong’s case i think is more serious than Tae’s.” I am asian 🙂 I know it’s rude but thats not because you say f*ck that you should be blame during all your career for that..

  6. uyeni

    “And when two groups interact, fans are happy. But well, you small minded people saying that’s “leeching”.” omg sorrry i changed the sentence it turns out so wrong T___T

    —>> And when two groups interact, fans are happy. But well, small minded people saying that’s “leeching”

    NOT YOU sorry sorry

  7. uyeni

    my opinion on SNSD?
    I love them since october, I think. The first SNSD vid was them performing Circus on Star dance battle and wow, Hyoyeon was so good (yeah she’s my fav lol). Not really into kpop (actually i thought asian singers were lame lol), but i was already impressed by Rain, Yunho and Xiah’s dance. And Hyoyeon dancing to Anonymous.. just wow.
    I remember I googled them and I end up directly on plenty of antis’ blogs and websites (and I had no idea “antis” existed lol).
    Have you watched “SNSD funny moments #…” on Youtube? That’s how I got addicted.
    I think they’re the most adorable girls idols out there, not because of their looks and stuff, but the way they act, their humour etc. (And Suju for male idols lol. I just love Leeteuk, Eunhyuk and Shindong’s humour so bad :D)
    Even between them you can tell they’re really sweet. If Hyoyeon’s dance skills werent that good (and if she wasn’t that funny), I’m pretty sure right now I couldn’t pick any favorite member or least fav. Because they’re so many interactions between them, in the end you gotta love them all.

    I don’t get how you can only like Seohyun, Sooyoung, Sunny and Jessic. Omg, the way Hyo, Tae, Tiffany always take care of Seohyun? Adorable. Sooyoung-Hyoyeon is my OTP ! Always hanging out together, so friggin sweet (epic Hello Baby), also Sooyoung-Yuri (dorky couple) and Sooyoung-Yoona (biggest eaters). Same for Sunny, if u like Sunny, you gotta like the Sun-pairings in SNSD like TaeSun and HyoSun (the 3 shorties). And Jessica? Her gay relationship with Taeyeon, Yuri and Tiffany lol. And her being a jokester when she’s around Yoona…

    Have you watched any of their shows??

  8. I don’t mind singing but why do they have to involve CFs?

    Not a huge fan of Big bang, so i won’t say anything about them…

    Well, it’s a bit too much to blame Tae for everything, but maybe one day i can forget about her rude remarks…

    I can see that you like idols for their dance and humor… ❤ i chose my fav idols out of their singing abilities, i really like Tae's and Sunny's voice out of SNSD, their voice are soothing.

    Yeah, that one, I've watch a few, they are adorable expecially the one where they went into SNSD's dorm and then tiffany was in the toilet and Tae said it's nothing. 😛

    My Fav SNSD OTP is Yoona and Yuri.. They are so dorky and cute, especially during Hello Baby, really love them there.. and i really like Tae is horror movie factory? the first episode where she was scared because of the hidden camera by her teammates…

    Hehe, in SuJu, i also have my least like(about to go to Hate status) members… I don't know, In almost every groups, i have some members that i dislike..

    I've watch Horror factory and Hello Baby, the others i just watch small clips of the cute ones…

    Just wondering, are you a guy? or a girl?

  9. uyeni

    “I don’t mind singing but why do they have to involve CFs?” That’s not Suju or SNSD’s fault… Not even sure if those CFs contracts are entirely managed by SM (because of the brand itself)

    You’re fav snsd couple is YoonYul but you said you only like Seohyun, Sooyoung, Sunny and Jessica… weird xD
    You should watch Intimate Note 🙂 Radio appearances are also adorable.

    “I can see that you like idols for their dance and humor…” im a HyoHyuk shipper ❤
    Voices… I like Fany's husky voice the most but Tae's also amazing.

    "Hehe, in SuJu, i also have my least like(about to go to Hate status) members… I don't know, In almost every groups, i have some members that i dislike.." Lol. In almost every group i think i like all the members (or i don't care enough to have a least fav).

    Girl and you ?

  10. You got a point there, that their fault… *sigh*

    I like them, but Yoona and Yuri are adorable when they are together, but if alone, i prefer, Sooyoung, Jess, Seohyun and Sunny(no special reason).

    Fany’s voice is nice too, as well as Jess and Seo.. Lol yeah intimate note, that’s where i fall for Sooyoung’s charms..

    I used to like all members, but then after a long time watching their shows and knowing them, i started to rank them. For now the first in my SNSD list is Seohyun.

    Girl too.

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